Comments on: An Open Letter to Sam Sethi http://owstarr.com/2007/12/05/an-open-letter-to-sam-sethi/ Going Where No Blog Has Gone Before Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:26:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: In Anchor » Amid Drama, Blognation Is Kaput http://owstarr.com/2007/12/05/an-open-letter-to-sam-sethi/#comment-179 In Anchor » Amid Drama, Blognation Is Kaput Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:03:59 +0000 http://owstarr.com/2007/12/05/an-open-letter-to-sam-sethi/#comment-179 [...] both on his personal blog, and at the Blognation site (subsequently deleted), entitled "An Open Letter to Sam Sethi," Starr reports that he and other Blognation writers had not been paid since [...] […] both on his personal blog, and at the Blognation site (subsequently deleted), entitled "An Open Letter to Sam Sethi," Starr reports that he and other Blognation writers had not been paid since […]

]]> By: buubi | Amid Drama, Blognation Is Kaput http://owstarr.com/2007/12/05/an-open-letter-to-sam-sethi/#comment-173 buubi | Amid Drama, Blognation Is Kaput Sun, 06 Jan 2008 20:56:22 +0000 http://owstarr.com/2007/12/05/an-open-letter-to-sam-sethi/#comment-173 [...] both on his personal blog, and at the Blognation site (subsequently deleted), entitled "An Open Letter to Sam Sethi," Starr reports that he and other Blognation writers had not been paid since [...] […] both on his personal blog, and at the Blognation site (subsequently deleted), entitled "An Open Letter to Sam Sethi," Starr reports that he and other Blognation writers had not been paid since […]

]]> By: Blog Titans And Their Wolf Packs : Awakened Voice http://owstarr.com/2007/12/05/an-open-letter-to-sam-sethi/#comment-147 Blog Titans And Their Wolf Packs : Awakened Voice Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:14:03 +0000 http://owstarr.com/2007/12/05/an-open-letter-to-sam-sethi/#comment-147 [...] know the crap that’s going on but stay silent. Finally someone with guts named Oliver Starr shines a light on the may misgivings of Mr. Sethi. Two weeks later Blognation is done. And sadly in the process of [...] […] know the crap that’s going on but stay silent. Finally someone with guts named Oliver Starr shines a light on the may misgivings of Mr. Sethi. Two weeks later Blognation is done. And sadly in the process of […]

]]> By: The Soap Opera of BlogNation, Reminds me of Efront » PC Mechanic http://owstarr.com/2007/12/05/an-open-letter-to-sam-sethi/#comment-138 The Soap Opera of BlogNation, Reminds me of Efront » PC Mechanic Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:13:11 +0000 http://owstarr.com/2007/12/05/an-open-letter-to-sam-sethi/#comment-138 [...] Starr then posts a scathing 3,000+ word post exposing Sam Sethi. My interest level went up in this story. Starr didn’t hold back on ANYTHING. And all of this [...] […] Starr then posts a scathing 3,000+ word post exposing Sam Sethi. My interest level went up in this story. Starr didn’t hold back on ANYTHING. And all of this […]

]]> By: Arrington and Sethi throwing mud http://owstarr.com/2007/12/05/an-open-letter-to-sam-sethi/#comment-133 Arrington and Sethi throwing mud Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:14:53 +0000 http://owstarr.com/2007/12/05/an-open-letter-to-sam-sethi/#comment-133 [...] So a very short recap of what happened (as far as I know). Sam Sethi started TechCrunch UK in 2006 together with Mike Butcher, covering UK based and European startups. TechCrunch was partner of LeWeb3 conference in Paris and Sam Sethi posted a blog about The Good, The Bad and The Ugly. Loic LeMeur (initiator of LeWeb3) wasn’t amused with this post and commented “Sam, there is just no justification for you or this post, you’re just an asshole”. The whole blogosphere jumped on it instantly. Then Arrington requested to delete the comment and Sethi refused. In the end he got fired, apparently because of a lot of other things that have happened. Afterwards Sam Sethi started Blognation and hired a team of journalists to write for Blognation. He claimed to have had funding, but in the end he didn’t have any cash to pay his journalists. [...] […] So a very short recap of what happened (as far as I know). Sam Sethi started TechCrunch UK in 2006 together with Mike Butcher, covering UK based and European startups. TechCrunch was partner of LeWeb3 conference in Paris and Sam Sethi posted a blog about The Good, The Bad and The Ugly. Loic LeMeur (initiator of LeWeb3) wasn’t amused with this post and commented “Sam, there is just no justification for you or this post, you’re just an asshole”. The whole blogosphere jumped on it instantly. Then Arrington requested to delete the comment and Sethi refused. In the end he got fired, apparently because of a lot of other things that have happened. Afterwards Sam Sethi started Blognation and hired a team of journalists to write for Blognation. He claimed to have had funding, but in the end he didn’t have any cash to pay his journalists. […]

]]> By: Blognation vor dem Aus: Sam Sethi wirft das Handtuch « c/o operative http://owstarr.com/2007/12/05/an-open-letter-to-sam-sethi/#comment-132 Blognation vor dem Aus: Sam Sethi wirft das Handtuch « c/o operative Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:48:37 +0000 http://owstarr.com/2007/12/05/an-open-letter-to-sam-sethi/#comment-132 [...] Am 5. Dezember veröffentlichte Oliver Starr, einer der Hauptautoren von Blognation einen offenen Brief an Sam Sethi. Darin warf er ihm vor, dass die Mitarbeiter bis dato kein Geld erhalten hätten und zudem von [...] […] Am 5. Dezember veröffentlichte Oliver Starr, einer der Hauptautoren von Blognation einen offenen Brief an Sam Sethi. Darin warf er ihm vor, dass die Mitarbeiter bis dato kein Geld erhalten hätten und zudem von […]

]]> By: Blognation - uptotech http://owstarr.com/2007/12/05/an-open-letter-to-sam-sethi/#comment-128 Blognation - uptotech Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:30:49 +0000 http://owstarr.com/2007/12/05/an-open-letter-to-sam-sethi/#comment-128 [...] aan veel mensen. Helaas bleek van die belofte niet veel in huis te komen, bleek al snel na een open beschuldiging van Oliver Starr (Blognation USA) tegenover Sam [...] […] aan veel mensen. Helaas bleek van die belofte niet veel in huis te komen, bleek al snel na een open beschuldiging van Oliver Starr (Blognation USA) tegenover Sam […]

]]> By: CrunchNotes » The Fact And Fiction Of Sam Sethi http://owstarr.com/2007/12/05/an-open-letter-to-sam-sethi/#comment-127 CrunchNotes » The Fact And Fiction Of Sam Sethi Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:50:20 +0000 http://owstarr.com/2007/12/05/an-open-letter-to-sam-sethi/#comment-127 [...] But then Marc Orchant had a massive heart attack. And the reason he had a heart attack may have been because he was working for Sam, not being paid, and massively stressed out about supporting his family. That is a debatable point, but another Blognation editor, Oliver Starr (who also used to work with me), decided to destroy Sam and Blognation by attacking him publicly. [...] […] But then Marc Orchant had a massive heart attack. And the reason he had a heart attack may have been because he was working for Sam, not being paid, and massively stressed out about supporting his family. That is a debatable point, but another Blognation editor, Oliver Starr (who also used to work with me), decided to destroy Sam and Blognation by attacking him publicly. […]

]]> By: When in Doubt, Take the High Road - Sethi vs. Arrington Spat http://owstarr.com/2007/12/05/an-open-letter-to-sam-sethi/#comment-124 When in Doubt, Take the High Road - Sethi vs. Arrington Spat Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:26:58 +0000 http://owstarr.com/2007/12/05/an-open-letter-to-sam-sethi/#comment-124 [...] to dole out hat tips, but here’s one to John Furrier for his post, to Oliver Starr for scorching the earth under Sethi’s feet, and to Tris Hussey for showing [...] […] to dole out hat tips, but here’s one to John Furrier for his post, to Oliver Starr for scorching the earth under Sethi’s feet, and to Tris Hussey for showing […]

]]> By: ilias http://owstarr.com/2007/12/05/an-open-letter-to-sam-sethi/#comment-116 ilias Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:16:41 +0000 http://owstarr.com/2007/12/05/an-open-letter-to-sam-sethi/#comment-116 Hk, very interesting comment. That's an all true analyis and a great external point of view. Olivier, that's the sad reality, but lies doesn't always start as big lies. It usually starts as a little one, just to avoid reality, and delay the moment where you will face it. I think that sam thought that the delay he got from you guys when he lied at first would be sufficient to raise the money and then to come back on the truth track without you even knowing about the little distortion of the truth! Unfortunately it did not happen. I am not excusing Sam, he should have seen even after the first lie that the bet was wrong. He should have told you the truth soon after. He should have seen when the VC's game was over, way before you figure it out yourself. But i can imagine that he was still expecting...expecting the day when he would tell you: "i knew it"! Actually, i had this experience in a relationship (quite different;) but thanks god, i was able to put my ego aside and tell after a while that i was all wrong. Actually that was a smart move as the person helped me to figure out the solution of the problem. That was what Sam should have done. Hope he (and you) got the lesson. That's "only" a couple of thousand dollars worth, thanks god, it could have been far far more than this. I know a couple of really bad experience of broken promise worth the sum of all the figures you have written above! Unfortunately. Well, bottom line, two words: good luck! ilias, PS: you should put a function of tracking back the comment (like trhough email to know when you post back) Hk, very interesting comment. That’s an all true analyis and a great external point of view. Olivier, that’s the sad reality, but lies doesn’t always start as big lies. It usually starts as a little one, just to avoid reality, and delay the moment where you will face it. I think that sam thought that the delay he got from you guys when he lied at first would be sufficient to raise the money and then to come back on the truth track without you even knowing about the little distortion of the truth!

Unfortunately it did not happen.

I am not excusing Sam, he should have seen even after the first lie that the bet was wrong. He should have told you the truth soon after. He should have seen when the VC’s game was over, way before you figure it out yourself. But i can imagine that he was still expecting…expecting the day when he would tell you: “i knew it”!

Actually, i had this experience in a relationship (quite different;) but thanks god, i was able to put my ego aside and tell after a while that i was all wrong. Actually that was a smart move as the person helped me to figure out the solution of the problem.

That was what Sam should have done. Hope he (and you) got the lesson. That’s “only” a couple of thousand dollars worth, thanks god, it could have been far far more than this. I know a couple of really bad experience of broken promise worth the sum of all the figures you have written above! Unfortunately.

Well, bottom line, two words: good luck!

ilias,

PS: you should put a function of tracking back the comment (like trhough email to know when you post back)

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